I'm not seeing any case this doesn't cover, all pokemon have their alternate abilities at this point if there were any that needed them to get around this, and even the ridiculous "Rest + Psycho Shift" example is covered. I'm not looking to make an "ideal" metagame, but if I had the choice I would choose to implement the old idea we had of "If your opponent is asleep for any reason other than using Rest, you lose". At the beginning of BW, although partly because of Darkrai, it was quickly established at the very least that Sleep is either annoying or broken and hasn't changed since. I know it isn't everyone's biggest pet peeve but I am convinced that this can't exist in a near-balanced metagame- it takes decent games in the middle and turns them into 50/50s whenever it wants as either player selects their sleep fodder. I feel that Sleep is one of the few broken threats that isn't in the limelight right now only because of the highly controversial issue of weather. On the other hand, banning Spore by itself may also be an option because moves like Grasswhistle, Hypnosis, and even Sleep Powder can be risky to use due to their sub-par accuracy.ĭoes there need to be a change or is the status quo fine? Are present sleep mechanics a legitimate problem or not? I think that there's a solid case to ban all sleep-inducing moves because of their ability to essentially eliminate any Pokemon on the opponent's side of the field.
The problem with Sleep Mechanics right now is that the Sleep counter resets each time Pokemon switches in, meaning that it is incredibly difficult to ever get a sleeping Pokemon to wake up. Ever since Technician Breloom was released, countless games have been reversed due to its ability to shut down any Pokemon for free. I was inspired to make this topic in light of all of the complaints I've been hearing (and making) when it comes to Breloom and its Spore. Please do NOT select more than one of the first three options, though, as that would skew the poll. Note #2: The above poll is multiple choice.
However, things have changed since then notably the introduction of powerful new sleep inducers. Note: I acknowledge this topic has been brought up before in this thread.
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